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Thursday, December 18, 2008

Laggards. They did this here YEARS ago
Posted by Jill | 5:46 AM
Remember Ari Fleischer, telling people they have to "watch what they say, watch what they do"? Remember George W. Bush saying "Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists">? How about all the slobbering fearmongers of right-wing talk radio, like Sean Hannity, who has said that liberalism leads to treason. Rush Limbaugh has accused both Joseph Wilson and former Sen. Majority Leader Tom Daschle of treason, the latter for daring to question George W. Bush's rationale for war. (No, he has never apologized.)

So I'm not sure that the Bush Administration has a whole lot of room for righteous indignation about this:
Rights activists Wednesday denounced new legislation backed by Prime Minister Vladimir Putin that would allow Russian authorities to label any government critic a traitor, calling it a chilling throwback to times of Soviet dictator Josef Stalin.

The bill, which is expected to become law, would expand the definition of treason to include damaging Russia's constitutional order, sovereignty or territorial integrity. That, activists said, would essentially let authorities interpret any act against the state as treason — a crime punishable by up to 20 years in prison.

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Blogger Distributorcap said...
i am still reeling/laughing at all the revisionism going on -- before he even leaves

and that bush and cheney are now telling different versions of their fantasies!
12/18/08, 9:16 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Nowhere in the AP story is the Bush administration even mentioned, yet the author of this post somehow believes that the administration would be hypocrites to chastise Putin and his merry band of thugs because they have supposedly done the same thing. Except they didn't. Let's go through the list:

Ari Fleischer, telling people they have to "watch what they say, watch what they do"?

How many in this country have actually gone to prison for up to 20 years for violating this supposed law, which isn't even a law? None.

George W. Bush saying "Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists"?

That was actually said to other governments, not his fellow Americans. As it turns out, liberals are very much supportive of the terrorists, and are also not in prison for 20 years for being supportive of terrorists.

Sean Hannity, who has said that liberalism leads to treason.

Sean Hannity doesn't work for the government. So, how many liberals are in prison for treason violating Hannity's "treason law"? None.

Rush Limbaugh has accused both Joseph Wilson and former Sen. Majority Leader Tom Daschle of treason, the latter for daring to question George W. Bush's rationale for war.

Rush Limbaugh doesn't work for the government. I don't think Wilson is treasonous, just a lying moron. A very wealthy lying moron (who says it takes brains to make money?). Daschle voted for the Iraq AUMF in 2002 anyway, and it seems like Limbaugh (who made the statements before the vote in October of that year) was an idiot for calling Daschle names. Neither Wilson or Daschle is in prison for treason either.

I'm trying to figure out how the Bush administration is the same as the increasingly fascist and national socialist Putin government, considering the Bush administration hasn't even tried to prosecute any liberal for treason, nor change America's treason laws to be anything like what is being proposed in Russia.

But I guess hatred of other Americans is more important than hatred of America's enemies. So much so that liberals will lie in order to perpetuate their hatred.
12/18/08, 9:28 AM  
Blogger Mark said...
I am no fan of the Bush Administration's attitude towards civil liberties, but this goes too far. There is a huge difference between an official or talk show host questioning the loyalties of people and/or governments who disagree with them, and actually making dissent illegal.

While Congress probably would have capitulated if so asked (as they did on every civil liberties issue the last 8 years), the fact is that the Bush Administration never remotely pushed to make dissent equivalent to treason. And I'm not aware of a single person who was prosecuted for treason under any circumstances during the last 8 years.
As bad as the Bush Administration may have been, it's not wise to draw false equivalencies either.
12/18/08, 12:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"But I guess hatred of other Americans is more important than hatred of America's enemies."

So much so that neo-cons will also lie in order to perpetuate their hatred.
12/19/08, 12:10 AM  
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