"Only dull people are brilliant at breakfast" -Oscar Wilde |
"The liberal soul shall be made fat, and he that watereth, shall be watered also himself." -- Proverbs 11:25 |
Some of the advisers to President George W. Bush, including Vice President Dick Cheney, argued that a president had the power to use the military on domestic soil to sweep up the terrorism suspects, who came to be known as the Lackawanna Six, and declare them enemy combatants.
Mr. Bush ultimately decided against the proposal to use military force.
A decision to dispatch troops into the streets to make arrests has few precedents in American history, as both the Constitution and subsequent laws restrict the military from being used to conduct domestic raids and seize property.
The Fourth Amendment bans “unreasonable” searches and seizures without probable cause. And the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 generally prohibits the military from acting in a law enforcement capacity.
In the discussions, Mr. Cheney and others cited an Oct. 23, 2001, memorandum from the Justice Department that, using a broad interpretation of presidential authority, argued that the domestic use of the military against Al Qaeda would be legal because it served a national security, rather than a law enforcement, purpose.
“The president has ample constitutional and statutory authority to deploy the military against international or foreign terrorists operating within the United States,” the memorandum said.
The memorandum — written by the lawyers John C. Yoo and Robert J. Delahunty — was directed to Alberto R. Gonzales, then the White House counsel, who had asked the department about a president’s authority to use the military to combat terrorist activities in the United States.
The memorandum was declassified in March. But the White House debate about the Lackawanna group is the first evidence that top American officials, after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, actually considered using the document to justify deploying the military into an American town to make arrests.
Labels: Dick Cheney, fascism
After goign deeper and reading your post, Ive come to the conclusion that they shoulda done it! It would have been a real illustration to the American people of who they were/are, and how people live in this world.
The rest is illusion and happy wishes about such quaint ideas as rights and the American dream...oh how I wish they had sent in the full metal jacket snipers and a couple/few divisions to take over the neighborhood.
Thats how you get standoffs and houses blown up, as I recall from the not so distant past...but also it would be illustrative of how we are not all that different from any other country with a dictatorship....
and actually, it might even have sent a message to the nasty terror cells overseas that they are NOT safe on American soil...
But actually, our military is not trained to carry out that sort of domestic action and thats why we have the FBI and SWAT...right?...
why would we need the military to take those guys when we have elite domestic police agencies?
Thats the real question for me.
From my research it seems obvious that he knew exactly what had occurred that morning, although being a natural coward actually made him look good (and rattled) on that day.
He certainly knew from the first. Witness the events around W.'s reading of the goat story after the first jet had hit and Cheney was already in control.
Waaaaaaaaaaayyy before they admitted it. And would not testify about it under oath.
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So any person hearing voices who talked about planning a "birthday party" who has an unfortunate last name was put on the list with not comment from the CIA saying, "This guy is insane, he talks to pink ponies and flying bears, he's a drunk and a nut but his last name is bin Laden so we are listening to him to be complete.)
And Meyer's thinks that this sent him further over the edge because reading all this made him jump at shadows. Meyer's is very generous with her understanding of Cheney, but that doesn't mean he was right to choose to read the unanalyzed data in the first place.
With his secret "National Security" stories based on crazy people he could always say, 'I've seen stuff that would curl your hair, they are out to kill us!" and the questioner couldn't say, "Prove it!" because it was all classified. It was the perfect excuse. And if something WAS disproved he could say, 'I wasn't talking about THAT, I was talking about other intelligence."
This ability to hold secret knowledge made any attacks on his credibility almost impossible to disprove.
He also used the word "relationship' very broadly and nobody forced him to clarify it and call him a word twister when he did.
"Vice President Cheney, you claim that AQ had a relationship with Saddam. But we know that that "relationship" consisted of AQ wanting money and Saddam saying no. This is the same relationship I have with a telemarketer for carpet cleaning. They want my money, I say no. Now technically that is a relationship but we aren't working together.
Now, I need you to explain to me and the American people the source of other "relationships" with Saddam that have any real bearing and don't be siting "National security because I have hear a sealed room filled with experts from the CIA who have all the security clearances you do and they will tell us what level of credibility each of these have. Oh and by the way, you are under oath."
but yet the "deference" the msm still pays to him is quite incredulous
when cheney finally meets his maker (and you know what we are all thinking) - they will have to hide his grave since way too many people will want to urinate on it.